on steroids. grazie, Hi Jim, I hunt in the Alps area in Italy, I walk a lot and would like a light weapon. Heres a link to it. Re#26 69 grs pushes a 162 gr A- max 3225 fps. Im running a 20 tube on a Bergara action. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); 7mm Remington Magnum-Norma Plastic Point, 7mm Remington Magnum-Remington Core-Lokt Pointed Soft Point, Boat Tail, 7mm Remington Magnum-Norma Oryx, 7mm Remington Magnum-Hornady BTSP InterLock, 7mm Remington Magnum-Norma Vulcan HP, 7mm Remington Magnum-Federal Barnes Triple Shock X-Bullet, 7mm Remington Magnum-Hornady SST w/Moly InterLock, 7mm Remington Magnum-Nosler Partition, 7mm Remington Magnum-Black Hills Hornady A-MAX, 7mm Remington Magnum-Black Hills Barnes Triple Shock, 7mm Remington Magnum-Winchester AccuBond CT, 7mm Remington Magnum-Federal Nosler Partition, 7mm Remington Magnum-Federal Barnes Triple-Shock X-Bullet, 7mm Remington Magnum-Norma Swift Scirocco, 7mm Remington Magnum-Winchester Ballistic Silvertip. Pros and Cons of the 7mm PRC Max range 600yard, would like to shoot the 180s. The best way to think about this round is as an updated version of the venerable 7mm Rem. Surprisingly, I found your keywords ranking number 1 on Google! Shots at game at 800 yards are extreme and should only be attempted by shooters that are using the right equipment, and have the coaching and preparation to positively make the shot. I appreciate this information. The other major factor is bullet availability. since Im a fan of your youtubes, my question to you: But this is where atmospheric affects come into play. I have a table showing the highest BC 7mm bullets, but here are a few bullets likely to be popular in the 7mm PRC: Below are the specified twist rates for many similar cartridges to the 7 PRC. Here is the above load showing the trajectory out to 500 yards based on those optimum sight settings: At 500 yards this bullet is only 29.14 inches low! I just completed my 7PRC build, and have started testing. Im still using the same 24 test barrel by Preferred Barrel Blanks for this cartridge. Your email address will not be published. Now I think that build is going to be a 7 PRC. I guess I can hang the gun on the wall and admire its looks until ammunition is available. Thats when little things cause failures. Its important to educate yourself about 7mm Rem Mag Ballistics, especially for long range shots, because not knowing how your 7mm rem mag load performs at extended ranges could easily result in a miss. It would have been nice had you included the bullet used, bullet weight and muzzle velocites, because as we both know these vary a great deal. If its foggy or rainy out, the clarity of your sight picture will limit how well you can shoot. same principal applies to bullets. Backfire was the first publication to put together a 7 PRC as soon as the SAAMI specs for the cartridge were released. In our next article we will look at how to calculate and compensate for long range shooting, and the equipment and programs that will do it. The only other company Ive seen with die sets is Whidden Gunworks. This means that velocity is the big player effecting how much a bullet will drop. N NomadPilot Well-Known Member Joined The flattest-shooting popular rifle cartridge at 1,000 yards is the 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum, followed by the .26 Nosler, the .28 Nosler, the .22 Creedmoor, and the 6.5 Weatherby RPM. Surprisingly, the factory ammunition for the 160gr CX bullet offers the same 3,000fps muzzle velocity as the 175gr ELD-X bullet. If you're after deeper penetration, look at the 139-grain Barnes VOR-TX Long. Ballistic Profile Specifications: Scope height, velocity, twist rate, and all ballistic data to include bullet Ballistic Coefficient (BC), powder charge, Base to Ogive, and Cartridge Overall Length will be provided with the package. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); 7mm Remington Magnum ~ 150 Grain ~ Trajectory Chart. Great folks to deal with too. Also, any chance you could add 270wsm to the tables? The 30 caliber 165 grain Barnes TSX would have to be fired at 4100 fps muzzle velocity to maintain 2000 fps velocity at 1000 yards. While I like and support new cartridges, does the PRC provide anything new? A bullet with a BC of 0.400 will drift over 40 inches at 700 yards in a 10 mile per hour crosswind. Jim, I enjoy that you use your platform to provide reliable data to ethically take animals. These guys have 7mm rem mags taking elk at 900+ yards. Great article! Interestingly, I loaded 61.2 grains of H4831SC in a 7mm Remington Magnum, and a 7mm PRC. If you throw a big rock, it puts a big hole in the ground, but doesn't go so far. It is on the upper end of what most large adult shooters can comfortably tolerate. Initially, I expected H1000 or Retumbo to be the best powders for the 7 PRC since they are fan favorites of the 7 Mag. Do not rely on my anecdotal testing for your rifle. Figure 1. The pistol bullet will slow down much faster, see Figure 2. Did you perhaps mean 50 cm? I want this to be the best ballistic trajectory calculator out there. 7mm Rem. Just wondering. This is more than adequate for taking down large game the size of elk at this distance, provided you use the right bullet to penetrate to reach the vitals and place the shot accurately. Building a rifle with no reloading data and no established manufacturing was a challenge, but now you can easily get a rifle rebarreled for 7 PRC. Whidden Gunworks doesnt show 7mm PRC offering on their website. On that same goat hunt, I missed a longer shot because I didn't read my terrain perfectly, and an updraft caused me to shoot right over his back. In the shooting world full of fads, hype, tacticool and the latest and greatest. So please keep letting us know how it works for you. 7 PRC would be a nice step down in recoil from a 300 win mag as long as you choose a lighter bullet. Suggested 7mm Rem. This can be useful in comparing cartridges or loads. I also received some information from a gentleman in Canada who built a 7PRC. Jim, nice summary on the 7PRC. There are quite a few variables that all work to decrease the true potential of a rifle. Decreasing wind deflection is a very important part of precise long range shooting. But wait, there's more. Great info on load data. It seems that the cartridge was designed to compress the load right at the point where youd reach pressure with these common powders. I really enjoy your videos, I like that you say your truth about the products you review. If you want to max things out, you need a bullet that will expand at lower velocities. I ABSOLUTELY would use 7mm PRC on elk. Couple questions for you. Love your channel and style. In a trophy hunting situation, it's important to have the equipment and preparation to ensure that you can make the shot at that once-in-a-lifetime trophy, even at 800 yards! I have a Vortex Strike Eagle on my 7mmMag that is being rebarreled. The Hornady 7 PRC is a new long-range hunting and competition cartridge that slides neatly into the gap that exists between the 6.5 PRC and 300 PRC. Better to pass on a questionable shot. It is intended for long-range shooting due to its ability to utilize high BC bullets, and is also uniquely suited for hunting large animals such as elk. So far, my favorite powder for reloading the 7 PRC is H4831SC using standard large rifle primers. Pinsoft Software. Commissions are earned for links to Brownell's, Amazon, MidwayUSA, GoHunt, OpticsPlanet, Sportsman's Warehouse, and other retailers. The amount of wind deflection is basically determined by how large the drag forces are and how long those forces act on the bullet. I really enjoy every bit from Income School! Select Your Gun Type. Figure 2. To me its in the Goldilocks zone. However, the 7mm PRC shot on average 105 fps faster. We will ignore any left/right effect, and focus on the vertical errors. Your email address will not be published. Theres always another hunt. It has a length of 2.035 inches, 2.80 inches overall, with a 1:9.5 twist and a large rifle primer. Winchester Ballistics Calculator. Please use a 300 yard zero and give me 100 yard clicks out to 1000 yards. We've measured the reference system to be on the order of eight inches at 1000 yards, but because of its exponential dependency on time of flight the 1500 yard drift could be as much as five feet! Hopefully with its introduction it will make SAUM brass easier to find because more people will go for the PRC moving forward. If you check Hornadys load data it shows N560 for every bullet except the 190. It really looks like this might be the do all cartridge Ive been waiting for. How much does the system you made weigh? To optimize performance of the 7mm RUM, Remington engineers produced a chamber design utilizing .400" (10mm) free bore. Ive got a Remington Sendero with a Brux 1:9 twist. Practical distance isnt the same as the max distance a rifle can shoot. Not being a downer on innovation, but 7mm STW is made by a lot more manufacturers than I see 7mm PRiCey ever being made by. But I have heard it can be a 1K gun. Because of the nature of the bullet's shape and its performance through the air, changing Air Densities can have a large effect at long range. 2023 Backfire LLC, a limited liability company headquartered in Utah, USA. I quickly saw that the 4 fewer grains of case capacity in the 7 PRC made these powders not ideal. Again, weight of the bullet plays a large role in bucking wind. Because the 7mm shoots the lighter bullets at higher velocities, it is better suited to the law enforcment arena than the .300. I had to calculate the 100gr at 3500fps. In summary, this is why the 7mm Rem Magnum is an excellent ballistic performer. The Precision Rifle Cartridge line is now broad enough that for many hunting uses, shooters will have a tough time deciding between the 6.5 PRC, 7 PRC, and 300 PRC. In addition to expanding reliably, a bullet must carry sufficient energy to take down the animal. Your rifle will be sent over to Evolved Munitions LLC who will then begin the load development process. I shoot only 7mm rem mag in 3 different set ups and for me, there arent nearly enough pros to just switch the tack on the near impossible feat of obtaining brass. So youre telling me Springfield Armory is planning on making a 7 PRC Waypoint 2020 in 2023 ?!?!?! Red Oak, White, or Chestnut for Deer Herd? Made my own dies. Whos reamer did you use? Personally, my load for the 175 ELD-X in the 7mm PRC will be 64gr of H4831SC, which should yield around 2,925fps. CHEERS!!! You can get a new barrel for your Ruger American, Tikka, Bergara, Savage, etc. I personally worked up my load using the 150gr Hornady CX bullet, but now Hornady has announced a new 160gr CX bullet with a much higher BC and only one band instead of the two bands on the 150gr CX. In other words what barrel length will produce a 3,000 fps muzzle velocity using the factory loaded Precision Hunter 175 gr ELD-X bullet? The #1 reason I recommend Preferred Barrel Blanks is because theyve sorted through those issues and can deliver problem-free prefit barrels. If you want to knock it down.. use a 7mm. Look up bergerbullets.com. Load Swift's 150-grain Scirocco at 3,036 fps delivers outstanding terminal performance. Simple as that. It resists wind drift well. Count me in as a 7mm STW shooter. ballistics software below for the same load: At 500 yards the remaining velocity is 2264fps again, this is exceptional ballistics for a bullet weight in this class and diameter. And shoot 168 Barnes tipped triple shock bullets along with Berger VLD at same weight and load. Point blank range is 302 yards. While the 7mm 168 grain VLD would only need 3100 fps at the muzzle to match that 2000 fps velocity at 1000 yards. for a 6 inch vital zone (typical of a whitetail deer). This would negate most of the recoil pain and serve as a solid replacement for 7mm Rem Mag without the belt pain. Why no newer cartridges? I think too many hunters see muzzle velocity and assume if its fast, itll work long range, and thats not true at all. Looking forward to seeing what the 7mm PRC can do by comparison. Policy. I am using this data for Scope choice. Though the sub-quarter MOA precision and low ES and SD are not guaranteed, they are the norm. Sure, some experts have even gone beyond what we consider the max distance. While we have went to great lengths to make sure that it's as accurate as possible this rendering should not be used to generate specs for casings. Its all highly situational, but it matters. I think the 280AI is a completely different animal as well. We develop the ideal load for your rifle that is tailored specific to your requirements, hunting or target. Given a 10mph wind and an average load, it drifts just 0.3 at 100 yards, 14.5 at 500 yards, and 69 at 1,000 yards. JavaScript is disabled. I am looking to build a new (all in one) rifle. Very impressive ballistics. Before SAAMI drawings of the 7 PRC were released, I fully expected the 7 PRC to follow the industry-wide trend of overbore hot-rod cartridges. Exact same setup. Personally, I have said for a long time on the Youtube channel that my ideal hunting cartridge would be a 7mm shooting 180 grains at 3,000 fps. If you own a 7mm Rem Mag, its easy to produce 7mm Rem Mag Ballistics reports using Shoot! I think your numbers might be off. The Barnes bullet loses velocity at twice the rate of the VLD! The 7mm Rem Mag is available from 139-175 grains, while the .300 Win Mag is available anywhere from 15-230 grains. Ciao Jim caccio in zona Alpi in Italia cammino molto e vorrei un arma leggera . Sounded like your load data charts for the 7mm PRC were all done with 24 test barrel. Incline shooting, and cant are two more factors that need to be controlled. The recoil of the 7mm PRC produces 27.7 ft-lbs of energy at a recoil velocity of 14.1 fps. Larry Whitehouse. The 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum was designed in 2002 by Remington Arms Company. The first number is the value of this cartridge, and the last number is the value of the most powerful round in our bullet database. I enjoy your videos. An inch is no big deal even if you're shooting squirrels in the head. Your email address will not be published. personally I like the 338 luapa and the 6.5 creed, reasonable to shoot compared to a 50 bmg and they will get you out there where you want to be and dont skip on the glass , high quality glass and big power isnt cheap either. Had they had a COAL for this cartridge that worked in a short action, then I could see it being a winner. I highly recommend Preferred Barrel Blanks for this job. Given Hornadys target load of 180gr at 2,950fps, this is likely a max load. Your results may vary. Be intentional and smart with each shot. Backfire LLC owns and operates this website. I was looking at having Preferred Barrels make me a 7mm PRC similar to what you have shown. 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